Say That
Episode 222 (with Leah Libresco)

Episode 222 (with Leah Libresco)

June 29, 2016

-How do I balance helping people in tough circumstances and maintaining my own emotional health? (15:18-36:15)

-FiveThirtyEight writer and author of "Arriving At Amen" Leah Libresco joins us to talk about her analysis of lyrics in modern Christian pop music. (37:23-49:43)
-They guys recommend art that deals with the less happy shiny side of Christianity. (50:30-54:59)
-What is the guys' take on the idea of friends with benefits? (55:04-1:09:16)

Closing Song: The Religion of My Youth (Jed Brewer)

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Episode 221

Episode 221

June 22, 2016

What does the Bible mean when it refers to the "heart"? (15:42-30:59)

How do I trust God when I feel lost in my life? (31:03-49:24)
It's been almost 2 years since a break up, and I still think about my ex all the time. How do I move on? (49:29-1:10:28)

Closing Song: He Makes It Art (Poolhouse Guru ft Steve Johnson)
Episode 220 (with Jason Gray)

Episode 220 (with Jason Gray)

June 15, 2016

How do I discover what I have a passion for? (15:07-28:52)

Singer/Songwriter Jason Gray joins Matt to talk about honesty, wounds, great writers, and his new record "Where The Light Gets In" (29:50-44:30)
What are some things wounds in your life have taught you? (44:48-47:05)
What does the Bible actually mean when it says to die to yourself? (47:12-63:54)

Closing Song: So Here I Am (Jed Brewer)

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Episode 219

Episode 219

June 8, 2016

How do I set boundaries with a relative who is going through a hard time, but is also driving me crazy? (16:02-34:53)

Does being pessimistic sometimes make me a bad witness? (34:58-48:49)
A meditation on Mark 8 by Lee Younger. (49:05-55:11)
What the right response when someone has betrayed you and ripped you off? (55:24-1:10:23)

Closing Song; Can This Be? (Lee Younger)
Episode 218

Episode 218

June 1, 2016

How do I deal with my friends starting to buy into the prosperity gospel? (16:24-34:40)

What are people talking about when they say "vision" as in "vision teams" and "cast a vision"? (34:46-55:30)
Could help me understand what James 1:5-8 is saying about doubt and hearing from God? (55:36-1:14:23)

Closing Song: The Shores (Lee Younger adapted from the words of DL Moody)
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